Kim Kardashian is dropping business wisdom, and honestly, we should all be paying attention—because if anyone knows how to turn a simple idea into a billion-dollar empire, it’s the woman who made shapewear sexy.
Kim is the very first guest on The Burnouts, a new podcast hosted by Phoebe Gates (yes, that Gates) and Sophia Kianni. The show, brought to you by Alex Cooper’s Unwell Network (because chaos loves company), is here to expose the real struggles of hustling in your 20s. Think: investor pitch nightmares, career meltdowns, and the kind of burnout that turns your morning coffee into an emotional support beverage.
So, what does Kim K—CEO, reality TV legend, and queen of turning the internet into her personal ATM—have to say? Well, she’s got the marketing game down to a science, and she’s here to tell Gen Z founders how to get their bags (without losing their minds in the process).
Phoebe and Sophia, former Stanford roommates turned fashion-tech startup co-founders (because of course), created The Burnouts as a safe space for ambitious young women to have real convos about success, stress, and how to not spiral every Sunday night.
“Young people today are juggling 500 things at once,” said Phoebe. “And burnout is real. But we believe every problem can lead to progress—unless it’s a WiFi problem, then you’re just doomed.”
And who better to teach them than Kim K, a woman who turned a reality show into a multi-billion-dollar dynasty?
New episodes of The Burnouts will drop on all major podcast platforms, with video episodes exclusively on YouTube.
Oh, and if that wasn’t enough, Phoebe and Sophia are also launching a digital fashion platform in April—because clearly, they don’t believe in sleep. Stay tuned!
